mts Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Well then... BUT Chrysler is tremendous for poor transmissions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted July 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 At least FWD applications... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troutman Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Those US-made Premacies and such must suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 chrysler sure, but not Jeep, Jeep is known for rock solid trannies. infact the only tranny that is in a jeep that has issues is the one from chrysler, the hemi also comes from them, which isn't great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Yeah... because they are not the same company... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Jeep makes things, chrysler goes in the back and steals shit, then they toss them crap, like the 42re tranny. I would like to point out yet again that no survey ever has close to the same results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted July 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Mazda second lowest? Luckily no US built Mazda makes it to Europe, part from the Tribute which seems to be dubious. BHR, I agree when it comes to servey results. Though the same 3 or 4 brands usually ends up close to the bottom. Never before seen Mazda there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 makes you wonder, how can it be at the top of 1 and the bottom of the other when they claim to be using the same scale and on that note, all cars fail, I mean seriously "style, comfort, resale value, performance, price" with the exception of price a rolls royce destorys everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallasaurora Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Good ol' Lexus at #2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 piece of crap and in theory, shouldn't the chink table all be together on the chart? I mean really, how is it possible that an ES is different then a camry when there made right along side each other, surely the difference is in the lowest bidder gold spray paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 They are made side by side in American facilities... but not so in other places... anything made or assembled in the US, Mexico and Canada vehicle wise is usually CRAP touched by a corrupt lazy union dog-fucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troutman Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 The Australian Premacy comes from Japan and has no real issues at all, whereas I remember a fault with the US version that involved the steering wheel potentially coming off in the driver's hands... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted July 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 I believe this servey also includes perceptions of the brands/cars. This would mean that cars proving BOTH good reliability as well as a being a renowned brand are likely to end up high on the list. I even suspect perception counts more than reliability; Merc and Jag are high on the list. Mazda has never really cut it when it comes to perceptions. Too bad the Amati project was aborted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 engineered far better, unions don't make them built any different, the problem with unions is they inflict skyrocketing cost and excessive slow downs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Quality, fit and finish are POOR. union lazy pricks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troutman Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 They always have to go too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted July 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Meh. We've moved further. Union representatives are board members and listened to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 quality, fit and finish are a good 30 years ahead of the chinks they just work alot slower and think they can do whatever they want because they'll never be fired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 You are so mired in your own shit it is unbelievable... Your Millenia was built by your so called "chinks" and yet you rave about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 hardly, let us not forget mazda was run by an american who was a former ford VP during the milleani years...now its with someone elseand what a suprise, everything coming out is shit slower and bigger rx-8 PISS FUCKING UGLY mazda6 mazda9 a disgrace mazda5 - at what meeting was funding approved for that, was the guy who fires retards on vacation or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troutman Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Spoken like a true Mazda enthusiast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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