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Nissan GT-R, A fraud?

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Nissan has hit back at suspicions raised by Porsche this week that the record Nurburgring lap time set by the GT-R supercar was achieved in anything other than a standard showroom-specification car.

 

The matter has reached top brass at Nissan, with its European spokesman at the Paris motor show today confirming the matter has gone ''quite high'' up in the company.

 

A senior Porsche engineer, August Achleitner, who supervises the development of all 911 sports cars, sparked controversy when he told Australian journalists at the launch of the new 911 Targa in Verona, Italy, this week that they were unable to replicate the record 7 minute 29 second lap time that Nissan claimed the GT-R set in April.

 

In the hands of a Porsche chassis engineer, the GT-R was 20 seconds slower than a 911 GT2 and 16 seconds slower than a Porsche 911 Turbo.

 

Achleitner questioned whether the GT-R was running a standard set-up on road tyres or perhaps something more track-oriented.

 

“Quite simply we're not going to get into a war of words with Porsche,” said Nissan's European spokesman Neil Reeve. “The final word from us is that it was done on absolutely standard tyres which are available to customers in the showroom.They're not trick tyres – absolutely standard tyres, normal road tyres.

 

“The GT-R comes with Bridgestone and Goodyear (Dunlop). One tyre gives slightly better times around the 'Ring.

 

“We did it on Dunlop. They're available with the car,” he said.

 

He was at a loss to explain the disparity over the lap time differences.

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Consider how ultra factory rice the gt-r is, oh big deal a skyline, I have never been impressed with them, ugly shits used by chinks, but 20 seconds? thats FAR more then tires, thats almost the difference between a track only suspension and 50hp more.

 

sebean scmitt or however you spell it holds the nurburgring lap record and drives the m5 taxi around it, has done more laps then anyone else, once drove a VAN on top gear around in 9:30, they then stripped out over 700lbs and made added a spoiler and they shaved off around 20 seconds, bitch drove it around faster then clarkson did in a v8 jag.

 

any professional driver, especially someone who tests porsche instead of family seden nissans and factory rice would easily be able to do a lap within AT MOST 5 seconds.

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Consider how ultra factory rice the gt-r is, oh big deal a skyline, I have never been impressed with them, ugly shits used by chinks, but 20 seconds? thats FAR more then tires, thats almost the difference between a track only suspension and 50hp more.

 

sebean scmitt or however you spell it holds the nurburgring lap record and drives the m5 taxi around it, has done more laps then anyone else, once drove a VAN on top gear around in 9:30, they then stripped out over 700lbs and made added a spoiler and they shaved off around 20 seconds, bitch drove it around faster then clarkson did in a v8 jag.

 

any professional driver, especially someone who tests porsche instead of family seden nissans and factory rice would easily be able to do a lap within AT MOST 5 seconds.

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WTF they are dropping F1 from Montreal next year.... fucking assholes.

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....I have not heard this, what is this bullshit

 

I'm sick and tired of this fucknig crap about holding the races at different times for european views, shut the fuck up, just don't air it live, air it when people want, or air it twice, live and then again at a decent time like speed does

 

people watch it regardless of what time, so what the fuck is the problem

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Live is good... I prefer live. BUT WTF why drop one of the classic tracks? :angry:

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its simple, don't air it until later, so if some fucker can't keep there hands off the internet and won't wait for the results thats there problem ,there is also tivo and other recording devices, so I don't want to hear SHIT about when it takes place for viewers

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Consider how ultra factory rice the gt-r is, oh big deal a skyline, I have never been impressed with them, ugly shits used by chinks, but 20 seconds? thats FAR more then tires, thats almost the difference between a track only suspension and 50hp more.

 

sebean scmitt or however you spell it holds the nurburgring lap record and drives the m5 taxi around it, has done more laps then anyone else, once drove a VAN on top gear around in 9:30, they then stripped out over 700lbs and made added a spoiler and they shaved off around 20 seconds, bitch drove it around faster then clarkson did in a v8 jag.

 

any professional driver, especially someone who tests porsche instead of family seden nissans and factory rice would easily be able to do a lap within AT MOST 5 seconds.

 

obviously you have never drove one. Since I have been in older skylines I am willing to see if they bring it to the US market....clarkson even mention how good it was!

 

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its chink garbage, and I don't care what you say, its crap, 20 seconds in the hands of a professional vs average driver would be acceptable, but not race drivers.

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Yea but the nurburgrinf is what they have been doing all the official testing of it as well as the ZR-1 which is why they are having so much competition.

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who the fuck cares, it still chicnk garbage and looks the part, plus none of that answers the question of the time

 

top gear had it on a trakc in japan, you always know the car is totaly shit when they won't let top gear take it to there own track

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