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#1 Cyberdyne

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 07:53 AM

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The 2010 JD Power Initial Quality Study (IQS) results are in, and the news isn’t great for Toyota. The IQS is based on responses from more than 82,000 purchasers and lessees of new 2010 model-year vehicles surveyed after 90 days of ownership in the United States.

Each owner/lessee takes a 228-question survey that has been designed to provide manufacturers in identifying problems and improving customer satisfaction.

It seems that customers aren’t entirely happy with their Toyotas, with the manufacturer dropping a mammoth 15 spots in the rankings from sixth to 21st, with an average of 117 problems per 100 vehicles surveyed.

The industry average for 2010 was 109 problems per vehicle, with just 10 manufacturers bettering the average.

The top performer was Porsche, with 83 problems per 100 cars, with Mercedes-Benz ranking in third position with 87.

Toyota’s luxury brand Lexus, which for years dominated the top of the JD Power results table and has built its reputation on quality, had to settle for a still impressive fourth.

Ford moved into the top five for the first time since the inception of the study 24 years ago. Other luxury brands such as BMW and Audi didn’t fare quite so well, with 113 and 111 problems per 100 cars respectively.

The bottom-trawlers included some big names. Land Rover was the worst performer, with a wow-worthy 170 problems per 100 vehicles.

Volkswagen’s apparent reliability concerns were also reflected, with the German maker scoring 135.

Mitsubishi (146), Mini (133), and Jaguar (130) also scored poorly. Land Rover is again at the bottom of the list, with 170 problems per vehicle.

The rankings are as follows:

Porsche - 83

Acura - 86

Mercedes-Benz - 87

Lexus - 88

Ford - 93

Honda - 95

Hyundai - 102

Lincoln - 106

Infiniti - 107

Volvo - 109

Industry Average - 109

Ram - 110

Audi - 111

Cadillac - 111

Chevrolet - 111

Nissan - 111

BMW - 113

Mercury - 113

Buick - 114

Mazda - 114

Scion - 114

Toyota - 117

Subaru - 121

Chrysler - 122

Suzuki - 122

GMC - 126

Kia - 126

Jeep - 129

Dodge - 130

Jaguar - 130

Mini - 133

Volkswagen - 135

Mitsubishi - 146

Land Rover - 170
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Posted 22 June 2010 - 04:53 PM

It should be noted that audi is rated above both Jeep and mazda, both of which I'v never had problems with.

These surveys are usually garage and aimmed more at jackasses who take the car in for anything to check it out, or first gen cars, instead of real problems like you know, the accelerator getting stuck
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Posted 24 June 2010 - 07:11 AM

Something doesn't make sense about the list Cyberdyne posted. Why are the most gizmo-laden, complex cars a la Mercedes considered more reliable than simple Jap small cars like Subaru?
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Posted 24 June 2010 - 10:08 AM

becauses chinks make cheap garbage, then try to copy the gizmo's without understanding how they work.

It still amazes me that people are raving about the new iphone, yet all it does is 85% of what the palm pre did since it came out over a year ago
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Posted 24 June 2010 - 04:38 PM

QUOTE(///BHRpowered @ Jun 22 2010, 11:53 PM) View Post

These surveys are usually garage and aimmed more at jackasses who take the car in for anything to check it out


Like dealer oilchanges?

I'm surpriced Vastewagen is climbing to new heights. Obviously Audi shares the internals. Go figure.
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Posted 24 June 2010 - 09:44 PM

Those surveys, along with the consumer reports best buys are nothing but scams and garbage, based on TRENDS instead of actual numbers.

One also has to think of the number sold and amount of problems.
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Posted 24 June 2010 - 09:59 PM

Well for example, why would ACURA be above HONDA when Acura is just a more techno-laden version of the same thing. Ditto for Audi/Vastevagen.

As for the iPhone, Steve Jobs is a master of marketing. I think its biggest advantage is a brand name, aesthetic styling and mass public awareness.

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 11:18 PM

Thats the flaw wih apple, hybrids, global warming and democrats in general. People buy into the crap because there weak minded fools who want to see something flashy but don't care, or even understand what actually works.

How can lexus be 4 and toyota almost at the bottom?
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 12:06 AM

Costsaving. Just like Mazda.
The engineers hoped to modify the boot lid in order to minimize wind resistance.The easiest method involved attaching
a rear spoiler, though that would detract from the vehicle's lines.
Alternatively, the lip of the lid could be enlarged, though that would require significant more work. Naturally, the team chose the second approach, and set to work in a wind tunnel lab in Miyoshi. A while later, they emerged with the hoped-for design, which was both aerodynamic and aesthetically pleasing...


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 02:39 AM

Ooh, you can rate things
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:19 AM

I agree such serveys may prove coincidental, but I always check the position of Vastewagen, Jeep and Land Rover. As long as two of them is amongst the three worst, I find it reasonably trustworthy.

Mazda and Toyota builds crap compared to 10 years ago, and are found in the region of average. Makes sense to me. In fact Honda is the stayer of the japanese manufacturers.
The engineers hoped to modify the boot lid in order to minimize wind resistance.The easiest method involved attaching
a rear spoiler, though that would detract from the vehicle's lines.
Alternatively, the lip of the lid could be enlarged, though that would require significant more work. Naturally, the team chose the second approach, and set to work in a wind tunnel lab in Miyoshi. A while later, they emerged with the hoped-for design, which was both aerodynamic and aesthetically pleasing...


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:19 AM

I thought the Good Xedie was happy with his 6.
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 12:08 PM

So it makes the whole thing useless, They should doan impartial none obama comissioned list, and do it based on number of failure PER THOUSAND in relantion to number of itmes that can fail. Is it fair to put a rotary engine with 3 moving parts up against something with thousands?
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2005 ZX-6rr...Muzzy, power commander 3, bixenons
1987 GPZ500...Vance Hines, full led, bixenons
2013 Lamborghini LP560-4 Spyder...possible twin turbo?
"You have entered, BHR's world. Proceed at your own risk" - MCfrank/zaocaddy
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QUOTE(SKI @ Apr 27 2006, 01:26 AM) View Post

First of all, we are smart enough to know that BHR doesn't really exist, he is an illusion in all our minds....

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 02:55 AM

Wait for icar.

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QUOTE(Xedosman @ Apr 4 2009, 01:38 PM) View Post
I wouldn't want to discuss car design with females and people with rear spoilers unless the spoiler is stock.

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I like my idea.


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Posted 26 June 2010 - 03:54 AM

It will be magical and revolutionary.
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Posted 26 June 2010 - 04:40 PM

The 6 was the first car I was glad to get rid of.
The engineers hoped to modify the boot lid in order to minimize wind resistance.The easiest method involved attaching
a rear spoiler, though that would detract from the vehicle's lines.
Alternatively, the lip of the lid could be enlarged, though that would require significant more work. Naturally, the team chose the second approach, and set to work in a wind tunnel lab in Miyoshi. A while later, they emerged with the hoped-for design, which was both aerodynamic and aesthetically pleasing...


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Posted 26 June 2010 - 07:21 PM

I liked the 6, but didn't need that at that time. My biggest problem with i is when it came out in 04 a fully loaded V6 went for 17k, prices starting at 13. In 2009 or 10 whatever the last last gen year was prices started at 18 and went to 31, for NOTHING MORE. Onl 9.4x inflation

I'm mixed on the newest one, It seems like a good car, but the front is a bit weird
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Posted 26 June 2010 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE(Xedosman @ Jun 1 2010, 04:47 PM) View Post

By the way... I like my new 6 shifty.gif


QUOTE(Xedosman @ Jun 25 2010, 11:19 PM) View Post

Mazda and Toyota builds crap compared to 10 years ago


QUOTE(Troutman @ Jun 26 2010, 12:19 AM) View Post

I thought the Good Xedie was happy with his 6.

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 03:59 AM

My new six is a different piece of machinery, and will be allowed to stretch its legs while the Xedos rests after 800 miles heavy towing.
The engineers hoped to modify the boot lid in order to minimize wind resistance.The easiest method involved attaching
a rear spoiler, though that would detract from the vehicle's lines.
Alternatively, the lip of the lid could be enlarged, though that would require significant more work. Naturally, the team chose the second approach, and set to work in a wind tunnel lab in Miyoshi. A while later, they emerged with the hoped-for design, which was both aerodynamic and aesthetically pleasing...


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Posted 06 August 2010 - 07:30 AM

O boy
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