///BHRpowered Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Quick question - The gas tank of the millenia, is it a type of plastic, or metal - it looks far to complex to be metal. I'm getting damn tired of people thinking you should fill your gas tank to the top before storage, all this does is allow MORE gas to sit and possibly go bad, even if oyu add fuel stablizer, they claim rust and condensation is the reason 1. In a modern fuel injection system its sealed and pressurized, thats why they check the cap at inspection. 2. plastic will not rust. running as little gas as possible to keep the engine running is the best way to go, with fuel stablizer or course, then adding fresh gas for start up. I personally like to go and fill a 5 gallon can, then fill the millenia before starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 It is plastic. I keep the tank in stored vehicles filled up. No problems with that, at least within a year. An empty tank is likely to cause all kinds of issues. Condensation, and rust in steel tanks. No problem in a heated garage though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Why to fill up if its plastic? Condensation will occur only up to all water vapor inside the tank is condensed. It is not continuous since the whole system is sealed and there is no way for fresh humid air to get in if you dont run it. Rust is not an issue in this case as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 EXACTLY, I don't worry about condensation, my biggest fear storing the millenia is flat spotting and the fuel going bad, so I also add some extra fuel stablizer, about 1oz more then recommended (per tank, not gallon) and inflate the tires more. To give you an idea of how little chance there is of rust forming, this is the first year it has been kept in this garage which is semi climate controlled, millenia was parked right before thanksgiving and put into the carcapsule and not a spec of rust has formed on the brake rotors. Of all things, rust on the brake rotors would be the very first thing, thats how little moisture there is - so you can see why its fine. I do believe I'll start leaving the door and trunk at first lock instead of all the way shut though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 I meant in general. My motorcycles both have unsealed steel tanks. The Hiace sealed steel tank. I keep them reasonably full. Works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 I meant in general. My motorcycles both have unsealed steel tanks. The Hiace sealed steel tank. I keep them reasonably full. Works for me. If its not sealed wouldnt it keep losing?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 It is not like it is wide open But air needs to get in, through a tiny hole in the gascap. Or the bike won't run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 That is another issue of course. For say the tractor with a plastic tank I let it run until it runs bone dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 It is not like it is wide open But air needs to get in, through a tiny hole in the gascap. Or the bike won't run. Where is the hole in milly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 there isn't in a millenia, fuel injection. After lots of reading and seeing some of the things posted its like no one has made a storage guide for the modern car, everything is geared towards things in the mid 80's and back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Task514 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 If you're storing for less than a year... you shouldn't worry about the gaz turning into gum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 the generally posted guidelines are 2 months, but again thats on older gas, generally accepted is 4 months BUT, I have seen cars just left for up to 8 even 10 months sometimes start up on gas not treated at all, but they probably run like crap I don't take chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Task514 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 btw, if you didn't know... gaz that is mixed with stabilizer shouldn't be used after the storage. You should drain it and refuel with new gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Why does it go bad in the tank? It has been in underground for millions of years. Is that another marketing strategy of oil guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 It doesn't. Not during less than a year. In a nonsealed tank it will lose some of the lightest and easiest igniting components, which may lead to more reluctant starting. Topping up the level upon startup takes care of that. As we all know, storage beyond a few months is devestating to all vehichles. Those who do deserve problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Crude oil has been in the ground, cut off from air yes highly refined oil mixed with other chemicals and such have not. You CAN use gas with stabilzer, most modern ones can even be used to help clean injectors, but like I'v been saying, most older people with older style tanks and carbs would have a full tank with the stabilzer. I keep as little as possible and generally top off with 5 gallons of perfectly fresh gas before starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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