ing-schu@online.no Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I should guess those seals, if they are carbonbased or some similar hard material, will benefit from clean, good oil. And gentle temperature variations, as in warmup, and even idling before shutoff after spirited driving. Like turboed engines, where this is crucial for turbo bearings. Though later watercooled turboes limitates the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I have always made it a point to let the engine idle for around 2 minutes after driving just before shutoff, I'm sure someone will say it should be longer, but 2 minutes is much more then most. I have been going back and forth for months on multiply forums, and the general agreement is that its better to just leave the engine off rather then start it up every once in a awhile, even after a week the amount of oil that has drained down will be the same as around a month or more, so why risk doing damage multiple times. If I just crank the engine a bit before starting will that help with oil, or will it cause more damage, and more over, how would I crank the engine without it starting, I mean I suppose I could pull the fuse for the fuel pump? (and yes, first thing that gets done when its started up is go for new, clean oil) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankzao Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Could always add an oil cooler as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 and how does that circulate oil before startup, thats what I want to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 You would have to install an electric oil pump and a switch, and run the oil pump for about 20 seconds prior to turning over the engine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankzao Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 THe oil cooler mounts to the oil filter threads and the pump could be put on those lines...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazdaMomma Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 You mean drain passages to the sump? I believe the nonreturn valve in the oil filter is preventing drainback on the pressure side, which is more essential I should say. Anyway, on daily drivers this is not an issue. Oil starvation in bearings occurs after storage. In fact it is wise to crank the engine without ignition to build up pressure if the engine has been sitting long. Do we pay attention, BHR? how would you know, you were left behind with xedos probably stomping an imaginary pedal on the wrong side to go faster. Pretty close to reality See if I let you drive any of my cars again. Or ride with me either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I have not done either, nor do I intend to. hmm, I will look into oil flow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 You mean drain passages to the sump? I believe the nonreturn valve in the oil filter is preventing drainback on the pressure side, which is more essential I should say. Anyway, on daily drivers this is not an issue. Oil starvation in bearings occurs after storage. In fact it is wise to crank the engine without ignition to build up pressure if the engine has been sitting long. Do we pay attention, BHR? how would you know, you were left behind with xedos probably stomping an imaginary pedal on the wrong side to go faster. Pretty close to reality See if I let you drive any of my cars again. Or ride with me either.... Hit a sore spot did I? MC, I don't under any circumstance criticize your driving. But you did have air between the throttle and the carpet during that incident I think you are a pretty good driver. For a woman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 That is the problem.... they are always emotional and take things personal.... But this is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 bah hahaha, by far the funniest xedos line ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazdaMomma Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 You mean drain passages to the sump? I believe the nonreturn valve in the oil filter is preventing drainback on the pressure side, which is more essential I should say. Anyway, on daily drivers this is not an issue. Oil starvation in bearings occurs after storage. In fact it is wise to crank the engine without ignition to build up pressure if the engine has been sitting long. Do we pay attention, BHR? how would you know, you were left behind with xedos probably stomping an imaginary pedal on the wrong side to go faster. Pretty close to reality See if I let you drive any of my cars again. Or ride with me either.... Hit a sore spot did I? MC, I don't under any circumstance criticize your driving. But you did have air between the throttle and the carpet during that incident I think you are a pretty good driver. For a woman For a woman huh? Just wait until the next time you are here... Why do you want to circulate the oil before the car is turned on again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 ...so everything will have all the luberication it needs after sitting for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazdaMomma Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 oh, ok. so it is only for when the car sits for long periods of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 A pre-lube pump is the best idea for ANY car before starting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazdaMomma Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 when they sit for long periods of time or before every start up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Every damn time.... you think when an engine is hot the oil doesn't freely run back to the sump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 damn right. My only real concern with long term storage of the millenia is the S/C seals drying out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazdaMomma Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 don't get pissy with me, I was asking a simple question. I am still a NOOB at a lot of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 n00b be gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazdaMomma Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 how can I learn if I don't ask questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankzao Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 get a milly first.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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///BHRpowered Posted February 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 well, this has gone off course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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