///BHRpowered Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 So I had this idea which appears on alot of more modern cars with 4 brake lights. Currently when you hit the brakes all 4 brake lights come on, when you have your lights on and not on the brakes all 4 lights are on low. I was thinking of making it so when on low only the outer taillights are lite, on low. And then when the brake is applied the inners come on full and the outers go to full. Alot of cars do this, but I was thinking it would make drop in LED's much safer since the high/low difference isn't that great. I figure 2 extra lights suddenly appearing on and very bright send a much more powerful "stop now shithead" message I love the look of the 01-02 tails cruising by, but at the same time love the look of 2 light pretty far apart cruising into the night. Just an idea I thought id float by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Wouldn't be hard.... just get the wiring diagram and disconnect the low wires on the inner lights That is what mine do right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I thought yours was the opposite, when you hit the brakes your outers go out and the inners come on, or one or the other. daylight operation would be exactly the same, and under braking at night all 4 would be on high, just when on low only the outers would be on. I don't need to clip any wires, simply reverse the LED bulb, or just put in a 7440. My biggest concern is possible bringing back the cruise control issue or anything eles. I know it was fixed with resistors on the outer lights, so I would assume its only the outer lights that affect it, but I worry about 2 bulbs out, and the highs being LED causing problems. Right now I have only 1 drive scheduled until march, sometime this week when its dry, then it will be put away and winter detailing begin, so I will have limited time to experiment. I only have an 8 mile drive setup currently, mostly to heat cycle the tires and circulate fuel stablizer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 It is the outer and hi-mount that affect the cruise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 most promising...I will work on this tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Instead of blinking the lights i would let only the outers on low and all four (high) while braking.. Another thing to consider is to rewire such that outers are high with fogs and low otherwise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoN_BLaZe34 Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 a similiar idea i've been comtemplating except when on low,i want all the lights on, but when the brakes are applied, only two sets (be it the inners or outters are lit) i'm just not sure which set of lights i want to be lit on high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt64341 Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 So I had this idea which appears on alot of more modern cars with 4 brake lights. Currently when you hit the brakes all 4 brake lights come on, when you have your lights on and not on the brakes all 4 lights are on low. I was thinking of making it so when on low only the outer taillights are lite, on low. And then when the brake is applied the inners come on full and the outers go to full. Alot of cars do this, but I was thinking it would make drop in LED's much safer since the high/low difference isn't that great. I figure 2 extra lights suddenly appearing on and very bright send a much more powerful "stop now shithead" message I love the look of the 01-02 tails cruising by, but at the same time love the look of 2 light pretty far apart cruising into the night. Just an idea I thought id float by. I really like the idea, it would be a well defined difference between braking and not. I hate driving behind cars where you have to guess whether its on high or low, it will be much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 saint, umm thats more of less what I said. low = outers only brakes applied = all 4 I would never do the opposite where lights go out. Its becoming increasing the trend with led taillights to have very little light on low, maybe just a ring or something, but then on high its like a hell storm of light. I did not get a chance to dig into this tonight so I can't speak for any issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankzao Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Alot of cars do this, but I was thinking it would make drop in LED's much safer since the high/low difference isn't that great. I figure 2 extra lights suddenly appearing on and very bright send a much more powerful "stop now shithead" message Bahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa I like the idea as well. Just snip the wires or remove the bulbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted December 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 I cannot just "snip" the wires. since I'm using LED's its not like there is an extra filament, its a power source going to the exact same LED's. either way, why clip when you could just put in a 7440 bulb with high only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankzao Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 as always.....you are right, BHR. I can't believe I just said that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted December 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 I was to busy polishing to mess with it, I think I'm simply going to bend the low-level contacts or put in a 7440- high only bulb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoN_BLaZe34 Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 saint, umm thats more of less what I said. low = outers only brakes applied = all 4 I would never do the opposite where lights go out. Its becoming increasing the trend with led taillights to have very little light on low, maybe just a ring or something, but then on high its like a hell storm of light. I did not get a chance to dig into this tonight so I can't speak for any issues yeah i think i want mine to be: low = all four brakes applied = outers only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troutman Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 I would do this mod if the 500 actually had 4 bulbs, it's an excellent idea. Personally I'd do it the way BHR is describing for maximum distinction between low and high, however Don's way is used by the Accord Euro (TSX?) and others so is a known quantity also. Keep in mind, though, the low/high distinction might be abysmal if you are using LEDs... Also, unlike filament bulbs, LED bulbs go to full (high) brightness with just the brakes pressed. As a result, the job is as simple as disconnecting the "low" wiring from 2 of the bulbs to achieve what BHR wants. Whereas Don is wanting to disconnect the "high" wiring from 2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 as always.....you are right, BHR. I can't believe I just said that..... On a semi related note, my inner lights have fogs on both sides. They work only when lowbeam is engaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 On a semi related note, my inner lights have fogs on both sides. They work only when lowbeam is engaged. We just have fog on the rear left here. Other housıng is just empty. I mean the xedos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted December 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 I hate reverse fogs.... don, what your doing will probably get you pulled over in the states through, it will look like 2 bulbs have 1 filament burnt out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Better to have than to have some moron rear-end you in the fog, or snow storm at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoN_BLaZe34 Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 i see your point bh, but i feel like with your method, your just making the inner tails useless in a sense...they would essentially just be reflectors...until u brake of course..just not sure i like that... i'm still on the ropes about this mod as it is...i dunno... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted December 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 well yeah, running lights you don't need much, the outer tails alone would provide more then enough light for drivers, but then under braking there is a huge surge of light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoN_BLaZe34 Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 i hear ya...i'll have to take another look at my tails again tonight.. you made the comment about my method making my tails look like the filament is burnt out...right now i have red 7443's in there to give them blood red look..i was thinking i would just switch the inner back to regular bulbs...this way they can remain on in low, but you'll be able to slightly tell that the outters are for the brakes and the inners are just fogs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted December 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 7443's have high and low, tis just not as big a difference then halogen. Plus with the 01-02 the inners shine much brighter by design anyway, the outers are pointed out a bit and have the reflector shield thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 I hate reverse fogs.... On a rainy race formulas with rear fogs on looks awesome. It would look good on milly as well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted December 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 but 95% of the time there used by some retard on a perfectly clear night, or during the day and when there is actually snow or fog, NOTHING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.