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Posted 07 July 2008 - 11:41 PM

it was a great car when it came out for concept, and I still see alot of them rolling around, all they had to do was keep improving int, but noooo, then they made it hella ugly
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Posted 08 July 2008 - 01:54 AM

This mystery Mopar fluid is probably developed to aviod a transfer recall, due to a major designflaw. Bet it is expensive. My point is; Toyota would never do this. They would specify conventional gearoil, probabaly a GL4 on the transfer.

Crysler Voyager autotrannies pre 2003 are known to cope with 60k km's here. End of story. It is not a brand mentioned in the same centence as quality, unless a word like low, lousy, crappy, dubious, cathastrophic, shitty or similar is written in front of it. Even a Vastewagen Passat appears to be solid compared to a Voyager. The diesel version built in Austria is, unbelieveable as it may sound, even worse than the US gas versions. Mother of all lemons.


The engineers hoped to modify the boot lid in order to minimize wind resistance.The easiest method involved attaching
a rear spoiler, though that would detract from the vehicle's lines.
Alternatively, the lip of the lid could be enlarged, though that would require significant more work. Naturally, the team chose the second approach, and set to work in a wind tunnel lab in Miyoshi. A while later, they emerged with the hoped-for design, which was both aerodynamic and aesthetically pleasing...


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Posted 08 July 2008 - 05:04 AM

Of course in my opinion anyone driving a minivan should be culled.
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BHR has not learned that driving a milly can also be fun........he still thinks it can't tow, remember?


Tow? He thinks it is made of sugar and melts in the rain :)


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Posted 08 July 2008 - 05:51 AM

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The engineers hoped to modify the boot lid in order to minimize wind resistance.The easiest method involved attaching
a rear spoiler, though that would detract from the vehicle's lines.
Alternatively, the lip of the lid could be enlarged, though that would require significant more work. Naturally, the team chose the second approach, and set to work in a wind tunnel lab in Miyoshi. A while later, they emerged with the hoped-for design, which was both aerodynamic and aesthetically pleasing...


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Ported heads, knifeedged IM, dropin K&N with wheelwell airduct.


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Posted 08 July 2008 - 09:01 AM

nope, noone had transmission trouble with many Jeeps except for 1 version on the much older v8, which was apparently down to an input speed sensor.

the TC fluid came from the factory and there was never anything else offered, runs about 7 dollars a quart, less then half the cost of diff fluid.
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1987 GPZ500...Vance Hines, full led, bixenons
2013 Lamborghini LP560-4 Spyder...possible twin turbo?
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First of all, we are smart enough to know that BHR doesn't really exist, he is an illusion in all our minds....

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 03:06 PM

Well then... BUT Chrysler is tremendous for poor transmissions...
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BHR has not learned that driving a milly can also be fun........he still thinks it can't tow, remember?


Tow? He thinks it is made of sugar and melts in the rain :)


#27 Xedosman

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 04:58 PM

At least FWD applications...
The engineers hoped to modify the boot lid in order to minimize wind resistance.The easiest method involved attaching
a rear spoiler, though that would detract from the vehicle's lines.
Alternatively, the lip of the lid could be enlarged, though that would require significant more work. Naturally, the team chose the second approach, and set to work in a wind tunnel lab in Miyoshi. A while later, they emerged with the hoped-for design, which was both aerodynamic and aesthetically pleasing...


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Ported heads, knifeedged IM, dropin K&N with wheelwell airduct.


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Posted 08 July 2008 - 07:08 PM

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Those US-made Premacies and such must suck.
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Posted 08 July 2008 - 08:48 PM

chrysler sure, but not Jeep, Jeep is known for rock solid trannies.

infact the only tranny that is in a jeep that has issues is the one from chrysler, the hemi also comes from them, which isn't great.
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2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee...5.7 Hemi, Overland, '14 LED headlights coming soon
2005 ZX-6rr...Muzzy, power commander 3, bixenons
1987 GPZ500...Vance Hines, full led, bixenons
2013 Lamborghini LP560-4 Spyder...possible twin turbo?
"You have entered, BHR's world. Proceed at your own risk" - MCfrank/zaocaddy
"BHR is more correct than you could imagine." - Troutman
"I guess we all proved BHR right.....again....." - Frankzao
QUOTE(SKI @ Apr 27 2006, 01:26 AM) View Post

First of all, we are smart enough to know that BHR doesn't really exist, he is an illusion in all our minds....

"The perfect weapon for terrorising Veyrons!"

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 10:00 PM

Yeah... whistling.gif because they are not the same company...
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BHR has not learned that driving a milly can also be fun........he still thinks it can't tow, remember?


Tow? He thinks it is made of sugar and melts in the rain :)


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Posted 08 July 2008 - 10:26 PM

Jeep makes things, chrysler goes in the back and steals shit, then they toss them crap, like the 42re tranny.

I would like to point out yet again that no survey ever has close to the same results
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2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee...4.7, Limited, Quadra-Drive, Loaded.
2005 Audi S4...V8, 6spd, miltek
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee...5.7 Hemi, Overland, '14 LED headlights coming soon
2005 ZX-6rr...Muzzy, power commander 3, bixenons
1987 GPZ500...Vance Hines, full led, bixenons
2013 Lamborghini LP560-4 Spyder...possible twin turbo?
"You have entered, BHR's world. Proceed at your own risk" - MCfrank/zaocaddy
"BHR is more correct than you could imagine." - Troutman
"I guess we all proved BHR right.....again....." - Frankzao
QUOTE(SKI @ Apr 27 2006, 01:26 AM) View Post

First of all, we are smart enough to know that BHR doesn't really exist, he is an illusion in all our minds....

"The perfect weapon for terrorising Veyrons!"

#32 Xedosman

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 02:40 AM

huh.gif Mazda second lowest? Luckily no US built Mazda makes it to Europe, part from the Tribute which seems to be dubious. BHR, I agree when it comes to servey results. Though the same 3 or 4 brands usually ends up close to the bottom. Never before seen Mazda there...
The engineers hoped to modify the boot lid in order to minimize wind resistance.The easiest method involved attaching
a rear spoiler, though that would detract from the vehicle's lines.
Alternatively, the lip of the lid could be enlarged, though that would require significant more work. Naturally, the team chose the second approach, and set to work in a wind tunnel lab in Miyoshi. A while later, they emerged with the hoped-for design, which was both aerodynamic and aesthetically pleasing...


2000 Xedos 9 2,5. Stock features: push-a-button retract mirrors, 1500 kg towing capasity, tranny cooler, rear swaybar, pollen filter, roof rack mounts.

Ported heads, knifeedged IM, dropin K&N with wheelwell airduct.


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Posted 09 July 2008 - 09:54 AM

makes you wonder, how can it be at the top of 1 and the bottom of the other when they claim to be using the same scale

and on that note, all cars fail, I mean seriously

"style, comfort, resale value, performance, price" with the exception of price a rolls royce destorys everything else.
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2000 Millenia S...It's a car with stuff in it
2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee...4.7, Limited, Quadra-Drive, Loaded.
2005 Audi S4...V8, 6spd, miltek
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee...5.7 Hemi, Overland, '14 LED headlights coming soon
2005 ZX-6rr...Muzzy, power commander 3, bixenons
1987 GPZ500...Vance Hines, full led, bixenons
2013 Lamborghini LP560-4 Spyder...possible twin turbo?
"You have entered, BHR's world. Proceed at your own risk" - MCfrank/zaocaddy
"BHR is more correct than you could imagine." - Troutman
"I guess we all proved BHR right.....again....." - Frankzao
QUOTE(SKI @ Apr 27 2006, 01:26 AM) View Post

First of all, we are smart enough to know that BHR doesn't really exist, he is an illusion in all our minds....

"The perfect weapon for terrorising Veyrons!"

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 03:04 PM

Good ol' Lexus at #2 shifty.gif
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Posted 09 July 2008 - 06:24 PM

piece of crap

and in theory, shouldn't the chink table all be together on the chart?

I mean really, how is it possible that an ES is different then a camry when there made right along side each other, surely the difference is in the lowest bidder gold spray paint
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2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee...4.7, Limited, Quadra-Drive, Loaded.
2005 Audi S4...V8, 6spd, miltek
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee...5.7 Hemi, Overland, '14 LED headlights coming soon
2005 ZX-6rr...Muzzy, power commander 3, bixenons
1987 GPZ500...Vance Hines, full led, bixenons
2013 Lamborghini LP560-4 Spyder...possible twin turbo?
"You have entered, BHR's world. Proceed at your own risk" - MCfrank/zaocaddy
"BHR is more correct than you could imagine." - Troutman
"I guess we all proved BHR right.....again....." - Frankzao
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First of all, we are smart enough to know that BHR doesn't really exist, he is an illusion in all our minds....

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 07:00 PM

They are made side by side in American facilities... but not so in other places... anything made or assembled in the US, Mexico and Canada vehicle wise is usually CRAP touched by a corrupt lazy union dog-fucker.
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QUOTE(Frankzao @ Oct 13 2008, 09:06 PM) View Post

BHR has not learned that driving a milly can also be fun........he still thinks it can't tow, remember?


Tow? He thinks it is made of sugar and melts in the rain :)


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Posted 09 July 2008 - 07:28 PM

The Australian Premacy comes from Japan and has no real issues at all, whereas I remember a fault with the US version that involved the steering wheel potentially coming off in the driver's hands...
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Posted 10 July 2008 - 02:20 AM

I believe this servey also includes perceptions of the brands/cars. This would mean that cars proving BOTH good reliability as well as a being a renowned brand are likely to end up high on the list. I even suspect perception counts more than reliability; Merc and Jag are high on the list. Mazda has never really cut it when it comes to perceptions. Too bad the Amati project was aborted...
The engineers hoped to modify the boot lid in order to minimize wind resistance.The easiest method involved attaching
a rear spoiler, though that would detract from the vehicle's lines.
Alternatively, the lip of the lid could be enlarged, though that would require significant more work. Naturally, the team chose the second approach, and set to work in a wind tunnel lab in Miyoshi. A while later, they emerged with the hoped-for design, which was both aerodynamic and aesthetically pleasing...


2000 Xedos 9 2,5. Stock features: push-a-button retract mirrors, 1500 kg towing capasity, tranny cooler, rear swaybar, pollen filter, roof rack mounts.

Ported heads, knifeedged IM, dropin K&N with wheelwell airduct.


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Posted 10 July 2008 - 06:57 PM

engineered far better, unions don't make them built any different, the problem with unions is they inflict skyrocketing cost and excessive slow downs
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2005 Audi S4...V8, 6spd, miltek
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee...5.7 Hemi, Overland, '14 LED headlights coming soon
2005 ZX-6rr...Muzzy, power commander 3, bixenons
1987 GPZ500...Vance Hines, full led, bixenons
2013 Lamborghini LP560-4 Spyder...possible twin turbo?
"You have entered, BHR's world. Proceed at your own risk" - MCfrank/zaocaddy
"BHR is more correct than you could imagine." - Troutman
"I guess we all proved BHR right.....again....." - Frankzao
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First of all, we are smart enough to know that BHR doesn't really exist, he is an illusion in all our minds....

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 09:09 PM

Quality, fit and finish are POOR. :ban: union lazy pricks
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QUOTE(Frankzao @ Oct 13 2008, 09:06 PM) View Post

BHR has not learned that driving a milly can also be fun........he still thinks it can't tow, remember?


Tow? He thinks it is made of sugar and melts in the rain :)