///BHRpowered Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 when was the last time you flushed the brakes? It didn't make a huge difference for me, but mine were put on around 25k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 when was the last time you flushed the brakes? A year, 6k miles ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwmcqueen Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I do plan on installing myself. Length is okay, as long as too long not too short. BHR - I think cheap eBay rotors and non-cheap eBay rotors (rotors in general) - there is a difference between 95-00 and 01-02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 After mid 01 front rotor diameters increased by 1 inch. IIRC the caliper is all the same yet the knuckle is not. If you have 01 and if you can fit a pen between caliper and outer edge of the rotor, you have small rotors (which I had). You can safely buy larger 01-02 rotors (I did). This will be a nice upgrade. There is a tread with pictures on how to install. If you dont have it send me a private message for the link. I remember there is a rubbing issue but it is still doable (at least for 95-00). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 they did NOT increase by one inch, how many god damn times can I say this, they are 11.2, PERIOD, the they look slightly larger because of the dust shield. I sold my old rotors to a member with an 01, malice, platinum, don, and others with 01-02 ordered from the same place, which said 95-02 and there rotors and everything were just fine. Also, the brake lenght would be the same, and it wouldn't matter, there is always extra. The problem seems to be ebay sellers specing the wrong rotors for different years, not sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwmcqueen Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 I think they don't need to be different, so thats why earlier years fit. I do know (or at least am pretty sure) my front rotors on my 2002 are a bit larger when laid on top of my 1995 rotors (both stock - never got rid of the rotors I replaced on my 95). Where is a good place to get new front rotors, in your opinion BHR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 they did NOT increase by one inch, how many god damn times can I say this, they are 11.2, PERIOD, the they look slightly larger because of the dust shield. I sold my old rotors to a member with an 01, malice, platinum, don, and others with 01-02 ordered from the same place, which said 95-02 and there rotors and everything were just fine. Also, the brake lenght would be the same, and it wouldn't matter, there is always extra. The problem seems to be ebay sellers specing the wrong rotors for different years, not sizes. I will not go thorough explaining the size difference again. I remember posting pictures of my old and new rotors and references to reviews that tells the difference. Only thing I know is stocks were smaller and new ones are larger and fit just right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveSter Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 BHR 01-02 have bigger rotors. I have proved this myself when I tried to move the new rotors off of my crashed 01 and put them on my 00 and they were too big. To upgrade to the larger rotors you would need to change the whole assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 and were they stock rotors? perhaps the S has larger rotors in general, people have purchased and swapped and had no problems. I would get KVR rotors, best you cna get for the millenia, x-drilled of course. But I don't know where would be the best place to get them anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Stevester is correct of course. Stock or unstock, S or non S doesn't matter. Facelift or nonfacelift is what matters, up front. Larger discs on facelift. Rear should be the same size all years. Isn't this fairly basic knowledge for a remotely mechanically inclined Millenia enthusiast? I mean; even I, the electrician, walk around remembering these basic specs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 I'm far 2 low on pancakes to argue this, and no there SHOULDN'T be a difference between S and L, yet I can name far more people who have used different year rotors with no difference, so I fall back to brand and cheap ebay rotors vs quality. the dust shield IS different, if/when I get a silver 01-02 I plan on putting my current rotors on it, and getting some new KVR's, or maybe a big brake kit for the 00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 As far as I'm concerned, you keep arguing if you think you can fit front discs currently fit to your Millenia to a facelift model. Good luck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aamerh Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 "Seeking to address a number of those issues, Mazda made several significant changes to the 2001 package that add to its visual, structural, and mechanical appeal.... A final touch involves upsizing the front brake rotor diameter from 10.8 to 11.7 inches. " http://www.automedia.com/2001_Mazda_Millen...rts20010701mm/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 "Seeking to address a number of those issues, Mazda made several significant changes to the 2001 package that add to its visual, structural, and mechanical appeal.... A final touch involves upsizing the front brake rotor diameter from 10.8 to 11.7 inches. " http://www.automedia.com/2001_Mazda_Millen...rts20010701mm/1 I had a comprehensive post trying to tell him the difference. If he is biased you cannot change his mind.. rotor, millenia 95-01 $115.89 $82.40 Brakes - Brake components - Front brakes - Rotor index%2Ecfm%3Faction%3DgetJointLocator%26siteid%3D214814%26chapter%3D%26Sectionids%3D%26groupid%3D0%26subgroupid%3D0%26componentid%3D0%26make%3D22%26model%3DMillenia%26year%3D2000%26catalogid%3D1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Because thats such a great source of info especially since the millenia's rotors are 11.2, go measure for yourself. and yes xedos, I know for a fact my 00 rotors will fit on an 01-02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 "Seeking to address a number of those issues, Mazda made several significant changes to the 2001 package that add to its visual, structural, and mechanical appeal.... A final touch involves upsizing the front brake rotor diameter from 10.8 to 11.7 inches." http://www.automedia.com/2001_Mazda_Millen...rts20010701mm/1 I had a comprehensive post trying to tell him the difference. If he is biased you cannot change his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankzao Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 My 00 S ME has the rotors from my 97 base on it right now. I put new ones on my 97 years ago and saved the old ones and had them cut. Later after I got my 00 S, the rotors were bad and I used the pre-cut 97s on it. no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 why the fuck would I be biased, its a fact, and your wrong, take out a damn measuring tape and see for yourself, 11.2" rotors from a millenia, to a millenia, and lets face it, other then new tails with a trim plate, and some new headlights, nothing changed. at this rate I might even do it myself since I'll take the caliper off for something else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Beyond Hopelessly Retarded A not too successful upgrade of looks is the least important change on the facelift model, in my opinion. The reinforced floorpan, upgraded front brakes and alloy suspension parts are far more interesting in my book. In fact, a facelift model with pre facelift looks would be an ideal car. But as we all know; no point in arguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 except there were no changes to brakes. I think I heard once it was suppose to be 20% stiffer, but I can't feel it, my 00 is much better then any stock 01-02 I'v driven (however that takes into account my ugpraded sway bar, lowering springs, and mileage) I do like SOME of the interior changes, but thats about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 30 % stiffer, but not nearly as thick as you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 are you referring to the sway bar? mine is the j-spec from corksport 1.25" as far as I know, marcus and myself were the only ones to get them the factory one, found on some xedos and the 01-02 is more like .75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nope. Not the swaybar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 my hand is tougher then a socket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazdaMomma Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 and once again ren is living in the 70's SS lines are plastic lines with a SS wrap around it, more or less, plastic lines break because they swell and they can't take it, the SS reenforces everything, so yes more goes to the pedal, but modern lines hardly swell at all, and when was the last time you heard about someone slamming on the brakes and a line bursting...oh right never, up until the 80's it was quite common. Women on average say 6000 words in a day, men only 3000. For someone that apparently dislikes women you sure seem to act like one. You don't know anything but keep on talking. Either you're a hermaphrodite or lat's not the only 'different' one on the site. ALL stainless brake lines have a coating on the outside that is some form of plastic, and it can crack. Given a stainless steel braid is not water tight, the plastic/rubber on the inside of the braid does the sealing, the braid prevents swelling, and the outside protects the braid from wearing. If the plastic breaks, which does happen, and the braid rubs through then the fluid runs out. I've read a few times that goodridge lines are no good. Instead of spewing your stupidity and putting someone's life at risk, shut the fuck up and let people who know what they're talking about give advice. BAH HAHAHAHAHAHA You and your wit have been missed dear. Absolutely love House!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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