ing-schu@online.no Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Yeah both the ac and heater is awesome. Keeps ALL windows clear even during -30C continous driving with 4 passengers and temp set at 22C. Truly impressive. I mean, I could turn up the heat and have a sauna in there during said conditions... The Mazda 6 is not remotely in the same league, I'd say around 70% lower heat capasity. AC is good though. Would it be off topic to point out that the Xedos is also much better at towing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt64341 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 The heat coming from the heater set on 90 once warm in the winter is just short of painful if I put my hand directly on the vent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 My Jeep is decent, and has much more space to fill, but its not as cold and takes longer to cool the cabin, the millenia on the other hand isn't very comfortable as its always bitter freezing or piss hot, then again I never set middle temps. I just drive with windows down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Yeah both the ac and heater is awesome. Keeps ALL windows clear even during -30C continous driving with 4 passengers and temp set at 22C. Truly impressive. I mean, I could turn up the heat and have a sauna in there during said conditions... The Mazda 6 is not remotely in the same league, I'd say around 70% lower heat capasity. AC is good though. Would it be off topic to point out that the Xedos is also much better at towing? I totally agree with you. The thing is the control system of the auto is not accurate. It works proportional to the temperature error (proportional control). Whereas it should be proportional-intergral control, so the temperature error between set and real temperature will eventually be zero. If I start a journey with 75F (25C) I end up putting it to 88F for the same temperature inside. This is the case either the outside is 50F or 10F. Xedos, keep in mind that in EU they use a better refrigerant for AC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Funny Saint, my Xedos is rather prone to rise temp slightly during really long drives. I believe it comes from the entire dash becoming heatsoaked; cds coming out of the headunit are close to burning hot, as Matt points out about the vent airstream. She is a hot lady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Indeed, cd's coming out during long trips are ass balls hot, on the 400 mile trip to MWM07 I was barely able to touch them coming out, but that was also summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goliat6288 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Indeed, cd's coming out during long trips are ass balls hot, on the 400 mile trip to MWM07 I was barely able to touch them coming out, but that was also summer. MWM07??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 MazdaWorld.net Meet 07. BHR actually drove his Milly for real. I saw it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted September 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 2007 We had our international gathering in kentucky, an entire weekend at some park, more people, but the house we got for MWM08 was just plain badass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 MazdaWorld.net Meet 07. BHR actually drove his Milly for real. I saw it. He used to drive his car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted September 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 and I still do, on days that fit the millenia where and when it can be driven as intended. Even if the weather is good the mood must be right and time not an issue. Today is close to one of those days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Today I've added 100 kms to the odo and enjoyed every one of them, contemplating how much better drive the Xedos offers compared with the 6. The firmer suspension which arguably is more comfortable in the long run, the vastly lower seat height and noise level, the relaxed engines smooth sound and power delivery, the way the new 235 General tires soak up the battered tarmac surface in perfect cooperation with the state of the art suspension... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Today I've added 100 kms to the odo and enjoyed every one of them, contemplating how much better drive the Xedos offers compared with the 6. The firmer suspension which arguably is more comfortable in the long run, the vastly lower seat height and noise level, the relaxed engines smooth sound and power delivery, the way the new 235 General tires soak up the battered tarmac surface in perfect cooperation with the state of the art suspension... Really, firmer suspension is one of the most important aspect of a car for me. It just feels more comfortable or I would say the comfortable feeling of better gripping the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted September 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 And yet you have a 2.5, just imagine if you were cruising with the miller-cycle lurking under the hood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 I'd say the 2,5 cruises just as well, at least up to 115 mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted September 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 MCE is smoother and of course the power on a semi related note, how the F can people drive 4cyl cars? there like buzzing little bee's that won't go away, even high end ones sound like utter crap compared to a smooth 6, low steady rumble of a v8, howling of a v10 and utter screaming of a v12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troutman Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 I invite Jetaway's commentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 MCE is smoother and of course the power on a semi related note, how the F can people drive 4cyl cars? there like buzzing little bee's that won't go away, even high end ones sound like utter crap compared to a smooth 6, low steady rumble of a v8, howling of a v10 and utter screaming of a v12 Well a small 4-cylinder is an excellent gas saver. I wouldnt mind driving one. And its easier to maintain. A mazda3 guy in another forum changes (pays the dealer to change) his spark plugs every 10k kms (6k miles), which is as frequent as oil change. I was trying to tell him no need but he says he uses cheapest and labor is very cheap. It is not a horrible idea afterall. Yet some are surprisingly shaky. I couldnt believe how shaky my friends audi 2.0T was. And it was new at 20-30k miles. Camry on the other side is pretty smooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 The Camry engines have balancer shafts, I'd say my 2,2 was smoother than the KL around 2-2,5k. But NOT beyond 3,5k. Yet very good for a 4pot. They generally have more torque on low revs than a similar size six too. But a decent straight or 60degree 6 is hard to beat regarding refinement. Takes a 12 actually. As for cruising, I mean constant speed. Even a 2,0 Xedos is a good cruiser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troutman Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Maybe we don't cruise as fast here (up to 100 km/h) but any car with cruise control does the job much the same. What does make a difference is the transmission - Japanese manual cars think that everyone likes doing 3000rpm on the highway. I'd rather be doing 1800rpm in my car thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Yup, that's the big difference between the 6 and the Xedos. 3k equals abit over 100 km/h and a beginning intruding engine note in the 6. The Xedos 2,5 does 120km/h with 3k, but is very smooth even beyond 160 km/h. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Yup, that's the big difference between the 6 and the Xedos. 3k equals abit over 100 km/h and a beginning intruding engine note in the 6. The Xedos 2,5 does 120km/h with 3k, but is very smooth even beyond 160 km/h. Heck 100km at 3k? This is even worse than milly. Is it auto? I dont know why in the world engine needs to rotate that fast while it only needs 30 hp to keep the car going. It can even produce it at 1k rpm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troutman Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 I concur, the logic is supposedly that it means less downshifts for hills etc, but I'd rather have quiet cruising personally. Even your six speed manual MX5s etc are the same. I'd go as far as saying it's an argument against a manual Millenia, assuming it was to be used for cruising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 My 6 is 1,8 5speed manual. For our speedlimits it is not too bad, but 2k on the diesels equals 120 km/h, much more relaxing. The 5speed Xedos has 10% lower top cog gearing than the 2,5 auto. It should still cruise well given the extremely smooth midrange KL. 3,3k at 120 km/h give or take. At those speeds I can't hear the engine AT ALL even at 4k granted I'm not accelerating. Less smooth at 2,5 k actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latinopikachu Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 bah hahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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