enginph Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 The timeline of the events: 10/2006: Milly bought at 102k miles. Regular stuff changed, plugs, air filter and such. In between: two coils fried (iridium IX shit). Shell 93 octane was used religiously 4/2007: Seafoamed for the first time. It started smoking while i was spraying seafoam. Here is the smoke show: Sometime in summer 2007: I gave 89 octane shell a try after reading Ren's posts. I didnt feel a heck of difference and began constantly using it 2/2008: Moved to CA and start using 89 octane chevron. 8/2008: Seafoamed the second time, exactly same process as the first time, same driver (thats me). No smoke while spraying seafoam. Here is the smoke: And almost no smoke this time! My conclusions: 1. White smoke is possibly because of carbon build-up 2. Seafoam does not just smoke but cleans up. 3. My car has some wierd noise, but didnt worsen at least. 4. HIGH OCTANE CAUSES CARBON BUILDUP. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted August 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 And this is some fun after seafoam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 high octane and better gas cleans out the carbon how many miles were on it when you seafoamed the 2nd time? you can't compare 102k to what I assume is under 15k. also in the first video, when we were using the correct gas there was very very little smoke. this is a video of some ghetto rat who used regular (albeit in a 2,5) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q25at6tE83w thats ALOT of smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted August 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 The second time it was 115k miles. Dont compare 2.5 and 2.3. Mazda already issued a TSB not to use high octane on 2.5L.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 and afterwards now all you see are ruined 2.5's with blown engines. and massive build up. automakers are against oil companies, they have been since day 1, it affects the bottom line to design a car that requires prem, especially when designed from the ground up to do so. If I ran regular octane I would have to put prem through every other tank, and use seafoam every single oil changeto keep it close to as clean as it is now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renboy Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 ^^^LMFAO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SteveSter Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 After reading rens post I may start using mid-grade. I have been using 93 Octane since I bought the car 1 year and 6 months ago. I Have Seafoamed it twice with not alot of smoke but I do run my car pretty hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 and this is the reason no millenia will last more then a few more years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latinopikachu Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 and this is the reason no millenia will last more then a few more years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renboy Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 HAHAHAHAH!!!! *wiping tears away* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 and this is the reason no millenia will last more then a few more years You will do more harm leaving your car sit for months on end.... every one of your bearings is likely flat spotted.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 the most the car sits is 17 weeks, started only once, with the car jacked up and wheels rotated usually once sometimes twice. I do not worry about the bearings, I do however worry about tires flatspotting, but as of yet I have not gotton even temporary ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latinopikachu Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 you should worry, your car rots away as you leave it sitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 rots away, have you learned nothing? my car is in better care the na musuem, not even dust touches it, it sits in a dark garage with a constat temp and very low humidity, I leave the sunroof tilted open to ensure interior ventilation as well and tend to its every need, oil stabilzer, fuel stabilizer, tires, wheels, and because its pressuzed even if an inspect found a way through the where the zipper meets it could never crawl in against the pressure. what you compare it to is randomly parking on the grass in burning sun half the day and birds crapping on it the other half, all the while a full tank of gas turns to gel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveSter Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Why not put the car on 4 jackstands so the tires dont get flat spots? Or would that hurt the suspension? Or buy those gelpads you were talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 putting a car on jackstands is considered universally bad for the suspension, some may think wheel bearings will falt spot, and on VERY old cars, such as those sitting for years and were originally built up until the late 70's this is true, not in modern cars The pads are called tirecradles, they help with flat spotting, but I'v always turned teh wheels just to be sure. I'v been doing this for several years now and have found the best possible combination, the only addition thing would be to completly drain the fuel tank and spray some fogger into the cylinders. I'm not going to spend all the time to take the plugs out for that which is why I use fresh oil with stablizer before storage, and then once it comes out in spring get it changed. fuel stabizer, and very little fuel in the tank is also good. anything under 6 months is considered short term anyway, alot of older guys will say to fill the tank out with gas to avoid rust, avoid this at all costs, modern fuel tanks, especially fuel injection are air tight, and more importantly, generally made of very tough plastics, the less fuel in there the better it is for stalizer and you can go and put fresh fuel in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted August 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Screw those old guys, milly has plastic fuel tank embedded into the chasis. So more durable than steel tank outside the chasis and no rust. I dont see any point in topping off the tank before storage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latinopikachu Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 gross, old gas... that shit stinks nasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 saint, I fully agree which is why I never do it, I try to run the tank down as low as possible before storage, you want the fuel cap on tight sure, but this isn't some 60's vw with a steel box for a tank. Actually in the book I have it shows the fuel tank of the millenia, probably one of the most complicated ones iv ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milenkogt Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 saint, I fully agree which is why I never do it, I try to run the tank down as low as possible before storage, you want the fuel cap on tight sure, but this isn't some 60's vw with a steel box for a tank. Actually in the book I have it shows the fuel tank of the millenia, probably one of the most complicated ones iv ever seen What book are you referring too, is there a manual or book about the Millenia S? what about a chiltons/haynes manual anyone have a copy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted August 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 What book are you referring too, is there a manual or book about the Millenia S? what about a chiltons/haynes manual anyone have a copy? There is a book: 10 untold stories about Eunos 800. It is the text book of Maz101 Introduction to Eunos 800 (or should I say ZX) I have the pdf, search in the forum for it. Forget about haynes. Search for factory service manual in the forum. Again I have the pdf, 1000+ pages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latinopikachu Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 yes indeed there is a book about the millenia some of us have more than there share of millenia/pegasus/eunos/xedos literature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 There are also other books, but the 10 untold stories is pretty indepth, including amazing photos and concepts discussed...for example a millenia coupe? or should I say ZX as apparently the millenia was more like a black project and only referred to as the ZX on a need to know basis. Its hardbook, huge photos, very very high quality, they come up on ebay every few months for around 50 bucks. The weird thing is the original drawings for the coupe look almost exactly like what the mercedes CL came to be years later.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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