mts Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 And as I have always said... spoilers are cosmetic crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I have a feeling we're going to have trouble to agree on this subject Anyway, a good design discussion is always a treat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 never!!! The only exception is for whatever reason, I have yet to german cars with a good looking spoiler (I do not count a lip, M or audi style as a spoiler) I have seen a few m3's and s4's or e classes with regular spoilers, just don't look right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdubs99 Posted August 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 let me make this very clear, I support the stock spoiler which ties everything together and has the same lip to is, flowing beautiful. ANYTHING ELES, is horrible, including stock spoilers from other mazdas :whistle: No cash to remove what's on there right now, if I could I would. Not my fault anyway, the last jobber that owned the car had the repair work done at a shitty shop where the repair tech closed his eyes, flipped through a spoiler catalog, and bought the one his finger landed on....and then painted it gold in an *This reference banned by MW* induced narcolepsy fit. If the mounting bolts are the same, and someone wants to find me the right spoiler, I'll take the 626 spoiler off, and get the correct one painted and mounted when spring rolls around. BTW, the 90 degree silicon elbow coupler is in the mail, and it is black. My intake will be complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 And as I have always said... spoilers are cosmetic crap. I disagree. The actual name gives it away as a purposeful item and not something cosmetic. However, if its called a wing, that's probably more cosmetic. A spoiler has the purpose of spoiling the air flow at the back of the car. It is actually forcing the air to let go of the rear end instead of holding onto it and causing drag. Cheers, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 j, I know its not your fault, its just hard to look at, when you want the true oem spoiler go to www.spoilerdepot.com it comes fully painted with everything you need, I helped plat but on on his 02, very easy, drill 4 holes, has its own gaskets (paint holes with touch up just in case) then connect the wire leads into the 3rd brake light, no more 3rd brake light inside, just hte spoilers internal LED brake light. And maybe plugging those holes they drilled. my intake looks damn heall nicer in black, but I can't really see the downward part since I mounted my ballast sort of in the way, but damn it, I wanna drive it and see how it sounds, still haven't driven the millenia since mwm07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankzao Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 let me make this very clear, I support the stock spoiler which ties everything together and has the same lip to is, flowing beautiful. ANYTHING ELES, is horrible, including stock spoilers from other mazdas :whistles: And as I have always said... spoilers are cosmetic crap. MTS you're a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Beh milly has drag coeff. of 0.29, maybe the lowest with that weight. A spoilers cant make it any better. Its cosmetic but not crap depending on the model/car.. And as I have always said... spoilers are cosmetic crap. I disagree. The actual name gives it away as a purposeful item and not something cosmetic. However, if its called a wing, that's probably more cosmetic. A spoiler has the purpose of spoiling the air flow at the back of the car. It is actually forcing the air to let go of the rear end instead of holding onto it and causing drag. Cheers, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 I believe it is 0,27 or 0,28. It takes wind tunnel testing to decide aerodynamic effects of a rear spoiler. Some are designed to reduce drag, which I believe the Millenia doesn't need because of its bootlid design and VERY low drag, others are designed to create downforce which increases drag. The last RX7 is one example of a car needing a spoiler to increase downforce during extreme speeding. But any man in good taste will like it better without it, for appearance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 And as I have always said... spoilers are cosmetic crap. I disagree. The actual name gives it away as a purposeful item and not something cosmetic. However, if its called a wing, that's probably more cosmetic. A spoiler has the purpose of spoiling the air flow at the back of the car. It is actually forcing the air to let go of the rear end instead of holding onto it and causing drag. Cheers, G. Maybe more research is needed on anyone's behalf that believes a bolt on piece of dealer installed crap can effect the dynamics of the car but to increase the drag numbers, And furthermore, that minute angle affords NO downforce. It is merely an option for old people so that they can have an idea where the back of their car is so they don't back into things. BAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 hahahahaha, well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 a spoiler is in no way designed to reduce drag. the millenia has a .29, which is not just low for its weight, its one of the lowest in the world, I can't remember, but an enzo isn't much lower, maybe .26? I would be interested in what say the CLS and or M6 are however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankzao Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 The soapbox that MTS and X are on is not the one in despute. The spoiler is for LOOKS, not drag. It adds very nicely to the Millenia's lines. Yes, I know I sound like BHR, but I do agree with him on this point. The milly looks good without the spoiler, but looks better with the spoiler. Quit arguing about drag. NO ONE cares about the drag or purpose of the spoiler. The spoiler is like white walls on tires, or chrome on rims, or tint on windows, or white on rice; its for LOOKS. :bleh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 And looks like SHIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankzao Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 That's real mature.........POT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 GO AWAY FRANK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankzao Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 MAKE ME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 die imp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 since mts is a mod, I guess he could really, probably not smart to dare him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankzao Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 The POT knows I do NOT care. He can't hurt me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 quiet, all of you, all the pots and pans are rattling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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