///BHRpowered Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 because I hate the A/C I find it to be extremely dirty in a car, just sitting in a tiny area with the same air and blowing in filtered air, I go windows down all the time with open air, much better for you anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankzao Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 not if there is smog.......or farms......or buses........or outhouses..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troutman Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 The a/c should be used once in a while to stop the seals from drying out, but I do try to use it minimally as it increases temperatures under the bonnet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 I try to avoid AC in city since it is very inefficient when going slow. But in a hot summer i dont care. Windows down all the dust gets in. When i first bought the car i never roll down the windows for this reason, passanger control was always locked. Besides rolling down dirty windows is insane if you are picky. Then i realized in US we dont have too much dust and start rolling them down.. Transparent uv windshield tint all the way. And ren how the hell you see through the car ahead. It is only possible in day light with proper height and type (sedan). Besides i dont know about Canada but in US the lanes are hella wide. I travel to leftmost or rightmost if i wanna see ahead.. I hate those of who gets in front of you decreasing the distance. Heck i dont wanna brake while cruising at 60-70 mph every minute like those idiots thats why i keep distance.. Thank you Saint. Always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 because I hate the A/C I find it to be extremely dirty in a car, just sitting in a tiny area with the same air and blowing in filtered air, I go windows down all the time with open air, much better for you anyway Did you fit an aftermarket filter then? On the Xedos I have an option of choosing recirculation or fresh air, and I always use the fresh air position part from long tunnel driving. Resirculation position is dangerous to use on long distances. Open windows will cause more dust, more noise, more fuel consumption than running the AC, give me one good reason to prefer open windows. I run the AC in economy mode when needed, but I try to remember shutting off the compressor a while before arrival to allow the system to dry out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveSter Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 I thought having the AC on actually helped cool the engine since when the compressor is on the other fan behind the radiator is turned on. True? On the 01-02 the cabin air filter catches alot of stuff mine were black when I changed them. -Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 New company car will be tinted all around too... fuck it, I say 20% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 filter does not matter, pumping air into a small area, I perfer fresh free flowing air, damn a/c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latinopikachu Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 silence you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troutman Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Xedie, whilst I agree with what you are saying and rarely roll the windows down, I think you'll find that a/c (as distinguished from normal ventilation with a/c off) is only more fuel efficient than windows-down above around 80 km/h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazdaMomma Posted April 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 New company car will be tinted all around too... fuck it, I say 20% GOOD what color is said car gonna be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankzao Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Bahahahahahaaaaa Pearl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Xedie, whilst I agree with what you are saying and rarely roll the windows down, I think you'll find that a/c (as distinguished from normal ventilation with a/c off) is only more fuel efficient than windows-down above around 80 km/h. I think he meant so. AC will always consume more IMO. Even if you roll window(s) down, you just disturb the air flow, you dont increase the effective area. And above certain speed (say 100-120 km/h) who would roll windows down except Bhr? Imagine you travel 5 hrs on hw windows down.. I always open sunroof and roll either rear window a lil down. Passenger side if i want the air on my head, driver side if i want air from pass side. Actually sunroof+rear driver side gives very pleasant air flow. My AC is still not very cold like an acura or others. I dump 18oz of refrigerant last summer (total 26oz), and dont wanna put more.. Xedos refrigerant is different than NA refrigerant i guess. EU one is better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renboy Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 I drive on the highway all the time with windows and sunroof open. And with the exception of MTS I probably drive faster than most on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 There has been tests regarding this issue, and they concluded with AC being more fuel efficient than open windows, due to increase in drag. Which speed the curves cross each other will probably differ between cars. Obviously AC will use more around town, say sub 40 mph. And just for the record, Millenia before 01 has no pollen filter, which is why I wondered where BHR's filtered air comes from. I can however confirm that the 01 onwards Millenia pollen filter fits my 00 Xedos, and probably also older Xedos models. My filter looked like this: [attachmentid=1027] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Hmm maybe its time for a filter change. They sell aftermarket in autozone but it looks different than stock. Recommendations? Xedos what did you put? Bosch, stock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankzao Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 I believe the Myth Busters sums up the issue nicely: AC vs. Windows Down Adam and Jamie tackle not so much a myth as what they call an "urban puzzle". The debate arises because both methods of cooling influence a car's fuel efficiency—air conditioning requires a lot of power to run, but at the same time, open windows create drag. * Revisited in MythBusters Revisited, Season 3, episode 38 Myth statement: Running a car with air conditioning on is more fuel efficient than running with the windows down. Status: Partly Busted Notes: Tests were performed under varying conditions (55 mph versus 45 mph). Also, the 55 mph test was using a computer to estimate fuel efficiency based on air intake, not actual fuel consumption, and showed A/C was more efficient. The 45 mph test consisted of running the tank until it was empty, and showed open windows were more efficient. This experiment--or one like it--is sometimes cited by the Magliozzi Brothers on Car Talk when presented with this question. Wiki LINK AC vs. Windows Down, Revisited, Season 3, episode 38 Myth statement: Running a car with air conditioning on is more fuel efficient than running with the windows down. (From AC vs. Windows Down) Status: Partly Re-Busted/Partly Confirmed Notes: The fundamental flaw in the MythBusters' test was that the point where the drag becomes powerful enough to inhibit a car's performance with windows down was inside their 45–55mph margin at 50mph. Going less than 50mph it is more efficient to leave your windows down, but going greater than 50mph it is more efficient to use your A/C. Since then, this particular bit of knowledge has been used frequently on Car Talk. Wiki LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Stock Millenia 01-onwards, as seen in the pic. It is identical to the Xedos filter. I admit the old one should have been replaced long ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazdaMomma Posted April 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 looks like it too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troutman Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 The Good Zao's commentary is consistent with earlier posts on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 look, mc was wrong, sunglasses are best and legal, can we close this now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 I find myself in agreeance with BHR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Not going to stop from tinting the company car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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