latinopikachu Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 well thats what i mean, not to do it for free of course. that knocking does indeed sound like its coming from the middle, its the damn bearings making that kikickickclackkicklackickcilack sound caused by deadly incorrect vaccum lines, i suggest you contact mts who may be able to guide you as he did me last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveSter Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Its not just clickityclack it more like someone knocking on a piece of metal with a pipe. But it goes away when reved. Almost like the sound an engine would make when a bearing is not put on the crankshaft and you start the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt64341 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 If its more of a noise than a feeling than I would say that Lat is probably right on a vacuum line. A bad misfire from a coil is more of a horrible thumping that you can feel, the s/c makes a sputtering sound, and you feel like you can't even pull away from a stop. Not something you ever want to see your millenia go through . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 a misfire would throw a code almost right away, are there any codes at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 a misfire would throw a code almost right away, are there any codes at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveSter Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Yes the CEL was on but doesnt a misfire make the light flash? I dont know guys you have to understand where Im coming from I dont want to buy it, try and fix it and have it turn out that it was a more serious problem than just a couple of vac lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 no, misfire would throw a code, a flashing cel would be a tranny thing, usually withthe tcs light on as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt64341 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 no, misfire would throw a code, a flashing cel would be a tranny thing, usually withthe tcs light on as well. No, a flashing CEL indicates a misfire that is severe enough to damage the cat converters, flashing hold is transmission. I had a misfire that wouldn't throw a code because it was very intermittent and did not last long enough to trigger the code. And Steve I can see where your coming from by not buying the car, I would consider buying it as a second car to fix, but not as a primary car. You don't want to be stuck with a problem. Plus the whole s/c thing sounds questionable whether it was a good replacement and good install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveSter Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Well if I find another S and its good ill buy it, and then go back to this guy and offer to fix it at $60/hour. And with the money from that, I would get a Chi-town intake, if hes still making them and do some preventative maintenance. IF I dont find another decent S ill go to this guy and tell him to let me try to fix it for free and if I fix it he has to honor my offer of $3950 and sell it to me. Sounds fair to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Id still ask for money off, atleas 500. Tel lhim you want to take it to a mazda mechanic and have them look it over, atleast then you would know exactly whats wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveSter Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Just to have a Mazda Mechanic even look at the car its $100. If I dont buy it I would on his tab, if he wants to fix it. He might just be like most car salesman and bullshit some people into buying it that dont know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 damn straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazdaMomma Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Florida sun needs 5% tints, if they made a 10% or 15% I would do that but I dont think they do. I ride with my windows down alot anyways. I cant get an S. BTW since Im going to have 2 window control modules I was wondering if I can make one module that has both front windows on automatic so I just have to press them once and both continue to go down? Possible? I have 15% tint I am very sorry to hear about your milly kiddo. I too know of the safety of a milly in a wreck. My son flipped mine/his and totalled her. Both him and his girl walked away without a scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Let me guess, there was a disconnected vac line and they thought s/c was bad, and bought one off ebay, prolly with higher mileage. Without a doubt they didnt connect the vac lines correct. As Lat said wrong vac lines causing s/c to make horrible sounds. And here we are. Steve read the damn codes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latinopikachu Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 the CEL would be flashing if there was a misfire. The SC noise to me sounds like... Like you're going to say the word "kick" but stop where you can feel the back of your throat tightened up to make hte "K" sound, and let little bits of air go through so it sound like your saying "ki" "ki" "ki" over again, thats what it sounds like to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ing-schu@online.no Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Not... "co" "co" "co" "co" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveSter Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 You know what Saint your problably right. And yes Lat thats a good way to put it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt64341 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I think the situation would be different if it was a rebuild from PSE with the paperwork and stuff, but an ebay s/c is a risk. Although, if I end up running into trouble with mine I would have to go through 8 ebay superchagers at 200 a piece to make up the cost of a rebuild, so I would probably go that route. If he would hire you to fix it though, you could make out well since you could find the problem and fix it much easier than someone who doesn't know the car. And maybe you would get some money off in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Those damn vacuum lines, once there screwed up its near impossible to fixc unless you take a bunch out and know exactly what goes where. an ebay supercharger are just pulled from wrecks, they claim it may have only 30k on them but we all know its atleast double the mileage they claim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveSter Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Ok guys Ive had looked all morning at 3 different S's one blew the nastiest smelling puff of smoke when it finally started, another had a nasty burning smell and had smoke coming from the engine and has the CEL blinking cause of a misfire and another the guy wanted $8K. This is turning out to be more complicated than I thought. The question NOW is should I go back to the original 99 S and just buy it and trust you guys in saying that that knocking sound it only caused by the misrouted vac lines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginph Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Steve read the codes!! If they are vac related just buy the car. 58k miles for $3800 even without a s/c is not expensive and you can bargain considering the situation of the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveSter Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I dont have a scan tool... Anyways what codes are the vacuum related ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 P1540, P1525 and sometimes a P1173 which is a ghost code that can be caused by the vacuum Ts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveSter Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 SON OF A FUCKING BITCH! The asshole of a car salesman sold it to some guy. Now im am truly out of options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
///BHRpowered Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 why the fuck would he do that. there are plenty of other S's. It would not be unheard of to find one online near other members, have it inspected, then drive or fly and pick it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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